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    Thursday, August 16, 2012

    Seeing God in Mexico

     Not too long ago, I was in Mexico with 32 others on a missions trip where we built houses, hung sheet rock, speckled sheet rock, hammered nails, played with children and led these youngsters in a Sunday School class type format with a lesson; games and a craft.

      We also went to people's houses and prayed for them, whatever they needed prayer for and whatever they desired from God.

      Seeing students (college and high school) interact with people on a deep level was amazing to see but more amazing was their expectation of God showing up.

     Early in the week, we challenged students to expect God to do great things.  We simply showed some of the great things God could do through the Scriptures like headings, brining people to salvation, speaking in other languages, the Holy Spirit giving power to share one's story...but we didn't define great for them, we simply made the challenge: expect God to do great things.

     That same day a group of students saw a person come to know Jesus and a person healed in the same house during the same time of prayer!  God also used each student in the prayer group to share their story of how God had grabbed their hearts and hanged them.  The Holy Spirit enabled them to share their story...it was incredible to behold!

      We then saw God design divine appointments all through out the week.  Once such appointment was a Korean man praying for help.

      There was a Korean church working with one of our VBS sites and they were only 8 people in a crowd of over 60 kids.  They passed out juice and hamburgers to the kids and caused a lot of craziness with such a spread of food.  The Korean pastor told us he had to get away and pray for help.

     The moment we arrived was the moment he had finished saying "Amen".  His faith was increased and the story sent all of us into an excited state as well.

     Many more, very similar events like this unfolded but one thing is clear: our team saw God in Mexico and we, the leaders challenged them to not just have eyes to see God away from home but at home as well.  We challenged the to do less facebook, less tv and more time with God.  We made this challenge because many of them said that the minimal distractions is what led them to see and hear God more clearly than ever before.

      God has been good and we saw Him do mighty things!  We know he can continue to do mighty things, so lets all expect God to do great things!

    Monday, July 2, 2012

    Missional Ministry in Paris (Fin)

    Recently, I interviewed a Missional Pastor about his work in Paris France and on their experience of living in another culture.  This Missional Pastors name I interviewed is Tim Meier who part of the C&MA (the denomination I am a part of). This is post deals with his answers to my questions about mission in Paris, it includes Tim's answers and my commentary. (See Part one here: Missional Ministry in Paris and part 2 here: Missional Ministry in Paris (Part Deux) and part three here: Missional Ministry in Paris (Part Trois))



    7. What are some creative innovations that you've developed that would work in American culture as well?
    I am heavily influenced and inspired by much of what has come out of the missional church movement over the last ten years. I am more and more convinced that small groups of people in true relationship, doing true faith together, have much more of a possibility of reaching the lost than attracting unbelievers to big shows. So, I have begun huddle groups here (5-7 people) who are heavily discipled but also released in mission right away to reproduce it. They in turn are the leaders of a new missional community, birthed out of our international church here. There is a 2nd missional community coming out right now and we're seeing a ton of fruit out of these groups of 50-70. We do a ton of stuff connected to art: jazz concerts, art shows, film etc. and all of that is usually connected to pre-evangelism or relational connections that lead to conversations.

    I know I have said it before in these posts, but I see our country going down the path of Europe much faster than some would care to honestly realize.  I think this type of ministry is what will reach our country best in the coming years.  As a side note, I really like the phrase "huddle groups" they seem to represent a group of people coming together but with a larger purpose in mind than just themselves.

    8. What is your overall strategy of trying to present/share the gospel?
    My overall strategy is to develop real avenues for relationship. The relationship is not just the "means to the end" but is the end itself. I am confident that God will lead, as He does, through the relationship to have real, meaningful conversations about what it means to fully surrender to Christ. I am highly skeptical of people being convinced in a matter of 5 minutes and praying a short prayer and that "working" at all to produce followers of Christ. It might work if God is in the magic business, but I think he's in the business of making disciples. So, my strategy is to love people, walk with them, and realize that God wants so many of them to follow Him, and if I can stay true to my commitment and let Him work, most of them will. I am also convinced, (influenced here by Scot McKnight) that the Gospel is truly found in I Cor. 15 which is the formula (Jesus came, died, resurrected, and will come again) and is not just the "plan of salvation." So, people need to come to grips with Jesus, not just the idea of salvation, although salvation clearly plays a big part in the whole deal. Hope that made sense.

    I agree with Tim on this answer.  As the years have gone by the simple prayer formula hasn't seemed very substantive and in many ways I've heard people present the 'Gospel' they missed most of the life of Jesus in that and explained more about the 'Gospel' benefits than what it fully was.  Great approach and The King Jesus Gospel by Scot Mcknight is highly recommended to see the full implications of preaching/teaching the full Gospel.

    9. Who is the major focus of your ministry (Disillusioned Christians? Non-Christians? Anyone in between?)
    Our major target are people who aren't walking closely with Christ. IT honestly doesn't matter to me if they're disillusioned, non-believer etc. I know that sounds like a jack-ass kind of answer but there are hardly any Christians here, so we kind of feel like whoever God wants to see come to know him, that's who we want to see. I would say that I spend the majority of my time with staunch atheists and those who hate the idea of God, so if you had to answer, probably "non-believers."


    Well, that concludes our Missional Ministry in Paris Blog series.  I hope you've been encouraged and blessed as I have been by this very informative set of posts.  Please keep Tim and his family in prayer as they are back in the States for a while and readjusting to life here.  Pray for their ministry in Paris, as well as their time back home!

    Friday, June 29, 2012

    Missional Ministry in Paris (Part Trois)

     Recently, I interviewed a Missional Pastor about his work in Paris France and on their experience of living in another culture.  This Missional Pastors name I interviewed is Tim Meier who part of the C&MA (the denomination I am a part of). This is post deals with his answers to my questions about mission in Paris, it includes Tim's answers and my commentary. (See Part one here: Missional Ministry in Paris and part 2 here: Missional Ministry in Paris (Part Deux))

      
    3. How are you presenting the gospel in this culture?
    My presentation of the gospel in France, and this will touch the answers to some of the later questions I'm sure, is primarily life on life. Since 98% of the population does not have a relationship with Christ, there is no framework for a "gospel presentation" or the notions of God, sin, or anything like that. It takes a very long time to earn the right to speak the gospel. The way I present the gospel is sort of a case by case situation (I guess how Jesus did) not based on needs, but based on the capacities to understand. So, with a friend who has never heard the story, it's to start with the story of Jesus. For someone who believes that there is absolutely no God, it's to start with creating the need for God. I have never presented the "bridge" or "four spiritual laws" or anything like that because they don't make sense to people. The way to present the gospel is to present Jesus, his life, his ministry, his way to God, and then let Him begin to open their eyes. I have personally led a number of people into a place of commitment but each one looked very different and they all looked extremely different than any of my experiences in the States.


         As I've been reflecting on Tim's answer and my own experience in Oakland (the college town in Pittsburgh, PA) I am astounded in how quickly the States are needing this type of "Gospel Presentation".  I think Life-on-Life is the way we should be doing missions in the states now.  Although our culture is more saturated with the Christendom than France, I think we've lost the essence of 'Gospel' and what it means for the way in which we live.  Life on mission or "missional living" is a dedication to living the Gospel, not just talking about it.  Spending time with those who don't know Jesus is what we should be doing, yet, many times we think we need holy huddles that we try and convince people to join...Needless to say, I am encouraged by Tim's words and think adopting his methods here in the states would be helpful.

    4. How effective has this presentation been so far?
    The presentation has been effective I guess. It's hard to define what "effective" means. Based on relationship people will hear you out no matter what because French people are relatively gracious when there is trust involved. But, without a supernatural work of God it's impossible convince people of anything, especially those without any framework of God. That being said, we have seen a number of people decide to follow Christ with their lives and many more who are on the "way" so I would say it's been effective to a degree.

    5. What is the biggest barrier to the Gospel in French culture?
    The biggest barrier to the gospel in France is an intellectual culture of doubt fueled by a history where the church did much evil in the name of God. France gave up on God about the same time that the US gave up on the monarchy. France was overthrowing their king, same as the US, but with the king came religious oppression and people threw out much of their belief at that point. God, in France, is currently paramount for many people, especially young people, to Santa Claus. Sure, you might tell the story to your children but at a certain age, if you're still believing in Santa, there is something very wrong with you. So, this culture of skepticism, intellectualism, and a philosophy marked by evil done by the church is difficult to overcome and only true friendship and supernatural workings of the Spirit will break through that wall.

      I love the transparency here that Tim provides.  Clearly his knowledge isn't from a book, but experiential..  He hears these arguments probably daily with folks in France.  He talks about dependance on the Spirit and realizing that only God can make people see Him and I fear he pinpoints albeit accidentally the huge sin of American Evangelism and that is the dependance on self.  Many evangelism programs in the States start with the brain, go into methods, mention the heart aspect slightly but lack teaching on dependance upon God.  We think we can do it and we teach people that they can lead people to Jesus.  Can we be used to facilitate that?  Yes, but we are not the savior.  As we think through these missional ideas, the idea that we need most in my opinion is that of Dependance upon the Spirit.

    6. What is the biggest asset to the Gospel in French culture?
    The biggest asset is actually tied to the biggest obstacle (which is probably true everywhere). Since people don't have much of a framework for God, there is a freshness when telling the story of Jesus. And since intellectualism and art is valued, there are many different means of telling the story: film, music, art, etc. People are actually open to talking about belief and religion and faith because it's intellectually interesting but the discussion is difficult to get to that "next level" without tons of time.

      I love how the biggest obstacle can be used to also be the biggest asset.  God truly is amazing.  
    I hope that this interview is proving as helpful to your thinking as it has been to my own.  Part four will be out in a couple of days, but until then please feel free to comment, interact, disagree, agree or simply add input.

    Wednesday, June 27, 2012

    Missional Ministry in Paris (Part Deux)




     Recently, I interviewed a Missional Pastor about his work in Paris France and on their experience of living in another culture.  This Missional Pastors name I interviewed is Tim Meier who part of the C&MA (the denomination I am a part of).   Tim is a friend of mine going back to our days together as youth pastors in the Metro District of the C&MA, in fact, I was working alongside him at a district retreat when he told me of God’s call to go to France, so I was excited to get the chance to interview him for this this blog. This is question #2, Tim's answer and my commentary. (See Part one here: Missional Ministry in Paris)


    2. What are the 3 hardest things presented by French culture that has caused you some "culture shock"?

    I guess the hardest part of France is that it looks and seems a lot like the US on the surface but underneath everything is different. So, the first answer would be the "tilted world" that is France. It's like you take the US and tilt it on its' access. So, it's not a complete difference like Africa, but it is so different that if you don't realize the challenge, you die.

    The second major culture shock has been the way to do life. Actually, after 4 years, it's hard to remember some of these things but just "doing life" is so different. We eat dinner much later than the US and those dinners last 2-3 (maybe 4) hours with tons of discussion. People aren't as pressed to get anywhere or to get to work. People work to live, not the other way around, so family, conversation, and friendships are a priority.

    I guess another major challenge was the lack of any sort of customer service. It can take 6 weeks to get internet and no one seems to care. Anyone can go on strike at anytime and it's just totally accepted because of the value of "worker's rights." So, the idea of being pampered or treated well all the time simply doesn't happen. That took a while to get used to, but once you do, it's not that big of a deal.


       Tim’s answer to my second question was one that really stuck and caused me to challenge my own assumptions not of just French culture, but of the College culture I am beginning to immerse myself into as a College church planter.  I have my own assumptions about this group and this plant.  I know that I will be sorely wrong in some areas of my assumptive reasoning.

      Tim said of the hardest things in French culture: “I guess the hardest part of France is that it looks and seems a lot like the US on the surface but underneath everything is different” (Meier, 2012).  When he said that, I felt kind of stupid because I had assumed myself that France was very similar to the US and only slightly different due to language and some minor cultural differences.  Tim went into France thinking it was very similar only to find it was extremely different.

      In ministry, it's all too easy to assume we know what's going on, only to find we are way off the mark.  Being in missional ministry, (a ministry that seeks to meet people where they are more than attract them in) causes one to be a bit more knowledgeable about the culture or group one is trying to reach.  Tim spent two years acclimating himself to the culture and language and still had some small assumptions.

    In your current ministry, what are some assumptions you had that ended up being wrong?

    Next post, we will look at the Gospel, it's presentation and the effectiveness thereof in the French culture, so stay tuned!!!

    Monday, June 25, 2012

    Missional Ministry in Paris


        Due to the fact that I am still in school means I have to to certain projects for my classes.  Recently I got to do a fun project that was very meaningful and impacting for me and needed to share it.


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       I interviewed a Missional Pastor about his work in Paris France and on their experience of living in another culture.  This Missional Pastors name I interviewed is Tim Meier who part of the C&MA (the denomination I am a part of).   Tim is a friend of mine going back to our days together as youth pastors in the Metro District of the C&MA, in fact, I was working alongside him at a district retreat when he told me of God’s call to go to France, so I was excited to get the chance to interview him for this course and this blog.


                    Tim has been in France for about 4 years now so he’s finally gotten the feeling of getting his feet wet in the culture.  Taking the cues from the syllabus, I asked 9 pointed questions to see what exactly his experience has been integrating into the culture and what his approach was to such a different culture. The 9 questions I asked were: 1. What has been your process of you and your family integrating into the French culture? (simply acclimation) 2. What are the 3 hardest things presented by French culture that has caused you some "culture shock"? 3. How are you presenting the gospel in this culture? 4. How effective has this presentation been so far?  5. What is the biggest barrier to the Gospel in French culture? 6. What is the biggest asset to the Gospel in French culture?  7. What are some creative innovations that you've developed that would work in American culture as well?  8. What is your overall strategy of trying to present/share the gospel?  9. Who is the major focus of your ministry (Disillusioned Christians? Non-Christians? Anyone in between?)

                    This interview was really eye-opening for me because of some of the assumptions I have made about  French culture as well as my own handle on how to do ministry to such a people group. More on that specific personal experience later; because that’s an overall learning while I learned a lot from other specific questions.

      This will be a series of posts with the questions, answers and some commentary from myself  on how I am personally wrestling, agreeing and working on things Tim brings up in his answers.  We'll start with question and answer #1


             1.  What has been your process of you and your family integrating into the French culture? (simply acclimation)
    The number one most important element of cultural acclimation is language learning. I appreciate the value of language in the C&MA expectations which has helped a bunch. We spent the entire first year learning language and culture. We were immersed in a non-English speaking environment and were in church, running club, friendships etc. in French. But, acclimation is also a choice. There are many people who learn the language but refuse to be a part of the culture or really jump in. Our philosophy has been that of a learner and we just sort of jumped off the deep end and went for it. Our son is in French school, I run for a French club, we have many good friends etc. It took about 2 years to feel completely comfortable and at home but it has worked. This involves an all-out choice with media, newspapers etc. In Paris there is clearly the option to stay in an English speaking ghetto but we choose to in-culturate, otherwise, why even come?


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      Looking at Tim’s first response to the process of integration I was inspired by his approach.  He didn’t go half way, he jumped in. Tim said: “We were immersed in a non-English speaking environment and were in church, running club, friendships etc. in French” (Meier, 2012).  They didn’t try to slowly creep into the culture or language but immersed themselves right away.  By his own admission it wasn’t easy and he shares: “It took about 2 years to feel completely comfortable and at home but it has worked” (Meier, 2012).  Full immersion quickly in such a culture is tough but it pays off in the long run of things.  I think I agree fully with this approach because not only does it assist in you and your family understanding a new culture but it shows the culture and people around you that you truly care about them as people and aren't trying to bring your culture to them but are bringing yourself to their culture.

    Tuesday, November 9, 2010

    Cross-Cultural Missions

    In Acts 17:16-34 we see Paul entering into a world vastly different from his own; here in Greek culture sex was a way of worship, many deities made up the pantheon of worship, men slept with men and woman with woman, and the mind was the central point of being. These Greek truths were the antithesis of Jewish understanding. The heart was the central point of being, men married woman, then slept with them, one God was worshipped and sex other than within marriage was sinful and punished by death. Paul was colliding in complete opposition with this culture, yet he sought to use a communication style which would speak to the people he tried to persuade towards the Gospel.


    First, we see Paul being spiritually “provoked…as he saw that the city was full of idols” (Acts 17:16b ESV). He allowed the Spirit of God to provoke him righteously to action. It doesn’t say he was repulsed by the people, nor does it say he was shocked and decided not to defile himself. The Scripture says he was spiritually provoked by what he saw. There is a difference. The response to repulsion and shock would be hatred, the response to a spiritual provocation is love. Paul was hurting for these folks. We then see that he took time to reason with them (Acts 17:17-20 ESV) and he took time to explain, discuss and dialogue about Jesus and the Gospel. It doesn’t say that he forced them to believe, it doesn’t say that he bitterly argued with them, but rather that he reasoned with them. When I think of reasoning, I think of a father gently trying to teach his child something. I think of this father showing the ideology of the child to be off a bit, but in a loving manner, not a demeaning or hating manner.

    This reasoning caused a curious uprising to occur, people desired to know more about what he was talking about. They were hungry to know this new “philosophy” or this new “religion”. It had something to it that caused them to wonder what else was lying within it, so they brought Paul to the Philosophers where they asked Paul to share it with them.

    Paul then discusses with them from his observation of the people. Dr. Dirks says “One of the tasks of the cultural worker is to observe what is present in a culture, its beliefs, values and objects, and use these to build bridges to the truth about God” (Week 2 Lecture notes, Dr. Randy Dirks, 2010).

    Here we see that Paul cared enough about the people of this different culture to observe them, to study what they study and to share with them his findings of themselves. He took time to understand their culture. Culture as described in the book Intercultural Communication is: “…stored in individual human beings, in the form of their beliefs, attitudes and values” (Rogers, E.M. & Steinfatt, p. 81). He opens with an exhortation of the people for being very religious. He then comments on a deity he saw in the marketplace which said: “To and Unknown God” on the inscription (Acts 17: 23). Paul realized that the people were so afraid of missing a god they were supposed to worship that they made idols to god’s unknown so those gods would be appeased. Paul then uses that portion of culture as a launching point of describing the unknown god, who happens to be the only God they need to worship. He breaks it down using their own philosophers and writers of that day. Warren Wiersbe in his book The Bible Exposition Commentary says this about the following portion of Acts 17:

    “Here Paul quoted from the poet Epimenides: “For in Him we live, and move, and have our being.” Then he added a quotation from two poets, Aratus and Cleanthes, “For we are also His offspring.” …This led to Paul’s logical conclusion: God made us in His image, so it is foolish for us to make gods in our own image! Greek religion was nothing but the manufacture and worship of gods who were patterned after men and who acted like men. Paul not only showed the folly of temples and the temple rituals, but also the folly of all idolatry” (Wiersbe, W. W. (1996). The Bible exposition commentary (Ac 17:16).



    Here, Paul used a form of cultural exegesis to show the people the folly in their worship of idols, and the importance of worshipping the only God who is the God-Man Jesus Christ. Paul took time to understand them enough to quote back to them their own philosophers to use those portions of culture to point to Jesus.

    We should look at preaching the Gospel in such a way as Paul did: it is for all people and we must become all things to all people for the sake of saving some (1 Corinthians 9:22). This means that if we desire to speak to a certain people group the truths laid out in the Scripture, we must study that culture, we must observe them and become wise people as to how they live. We must figure out how to best communicate the truth to them to ensure that they receive it. If we fail to study people of different cultures and fail to see how it is we can best communicate to them the truth of the Gospel, we will have done wrong. We, like Paul need to have a spiritual provocation to action, then we need to start learning as much as we can about those we expect to teach.

    For example, I am a youth pastor; it is my job to effectively communicate the gospel to teenagers. If I have no references to their culture and know nothing of their language, they will hardly listen to a word I have to say. They will blow me off as another “adult” who “doesn’t understand them”. So, it is them I must study, them I must learn from, them I must understand or at least seek to understand. If I fail to try, I am in the wrong and they will rightfully ignore me. This is why I studied youth culture for 4 years and continue to attempt to do so. It is important to keep up to speed to live missional lives, for that is what God calls us to and if we’re living missional lives, we will bump into people different from ourselves. It is then we must study, and get to know them in order that we might show them the truth of Jesus Christ.